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11 Mar 2010 23:58:55
Mr stubborn is going to have to call it a day pretty dam soon. Lets face it the season is as gud as over for us, 4th is lookin unlikely now and winnin the europa league will not wash. The fans hav shown tremendous faith and support for rafa but now they are turnin. For his sake he best leave before he becomes our first boss in years to hold the record for most defeats in a season. JCB
11 Mar 2010 22:23:22
I will say it again, how dare a fan of a club like rangers try and take the moral high ground, please read my earlier post about some of there deplorable actions. Again of course Everton has had its dark past (no pun intended)but despite a sub–culture of scum that exsist within all clubs and use football as a facade to promote their wicked ways, it is a far more racially tolerant club. Some idiot of course mentioned the Diouf incident in 2009 where he claimed bananas where thrown at him. There weren't simple as. Anybody only has to see the reaction of club after Yobo's racially verbal assult from Emre, to see that this is a club that has long shed it less than desirable past.
To link it with the BNP is such a redundant argument, regardless that merseyside is (ironically) socialist red through and through the fact the BNP is facist will not detract attention away from it in working class areas. Of course anybody that has a problem with political freedom of speech and wishes to oppress, might aswell consider themselves facist.
To summarise my two cents worth, clubs like the old firm have racism and bigotry intrisically linked with the pair, and you can call me all the names under the sun but I stand by the belief that they are vile clubs, with vile fans (not the majority of course) and that the entire principles behind secatarinism are so odious and moronic that it makes you wonder how idiots like this can survive in todays world without a grown up helping them to cross the street
Alex
11 Mar 2010 22:26:08
HA HA HA!! COYBigot. Whatever he has spent, whether it be 250 million or not. The man has still brought back the worlds most valued trophy in club football. The Champions league is a tournament he has managed to win whilst your poor little team have never ever ever even competed in the tournament.
Say what you want about the man, he has acheived an accolade that your team, never mind your manager will never acheive.
Celtic have reached the final 16 of the tournament whilst Rangers have reached the final 16 & the final 8 of the tournament knocking the English champions out on the way. Oh but we're just a wee diddy team from a diddy league lol. When was the last time your team competed in a european final? lol!
It must be shi*e to have never seen your team play in the worlds biggest club tournament!! Awwwww poor little Mustang Sally.
11 Mar 2010 22:32:50
Oh yeah, forgot to mention just because you two poor examples for football fans (School of sh*t & COYBigot) both strangely came up with exactly the same valuation of Rodders Trotter, doesn't mean it is his valuation by the club.
A handful of appearances and a goal against Man Utd and all you clowns are going mental over the lad lol. Typical small club supporter syndrome. If Neverton were offered 20 mill in July they would sell sell sell. Not that anyone would be stupid enough to offer that figure. School of sh*t, your "Neverton don't need to sell" is completely irrelevant you clueless McNugget.
Are all Neverton fans as daft as COYBigot & School of sh*t?? Or is it just because they are the only 2 on here. {editor's note – there has been a buzz around Rodwell for a long time before now, similar to the buzz that surrounded Owen, Fowler and Mcmanaman when they were in the youth teams at Liverpool. He stood out a country mile as a prospect, I think you are being a bit harsh on the Everton fans there. This kid doesn't have teams like United and Chelsea drooling over him for no reason.}
11 Mar 2010 23:21:19
I'm a big liverpool fan and i would love to see Mourhino at anfield, there's plenty of rumours he's on his way.I know he wouldn't have much money as anywhere else he could go, but he would have full control of the first team, reserves and the acadamy like Benitez has, which he didn't have at chelsea(remember shevchenko, he didn't want him)and at inter.c'mon yanks get him in.
11 Mar 2010 22:05:05
To the post below. Rafa has spent £250m or so on assembling a team. Plus, he's spent far more than money than he taken in from sales.
Maybe it is you that needs to rethink his opinion?
COYB!!
11 Mar 2010 21:16:51
To the liverpool so called fan who keeps insulting soul man you want to take your head out of the sand and smell the roses.i bet you blame rafa for the bank crisis/greenhouse gasses the bad weather. you keep slagging of rafas signings but youdont mention his good buys or the fact hes had to sell to buy .kuyt lucas insua arnt as bad as you make out i don't think you can't think for yourselfs you just trip out the same crap that talk sport spew out.and other andi lfc media dickheads rafas took us to two euro finals fa cup league cup and 2nd last season.the man deserves 1 bad season and moor loyalty from so called fans like you whoever you are obviuosley your to ashamed to put any name to your posts. soul man
11 Mar 2010 21:27:19
11 Mar 2010 19:35:49
Ex–Portsmouth player Zoran Tosic has been training with Swansea City and could be offered a permanent contract after being released by cash–strapped Portsmouth.
Also, Swansea City are looking at possible options such as Stephen Quinn and Lee Frecklington on loan, thought Frecklington talks have stalled.
dont post crap zoran tosic is a manchester united player who is on loan to a forign team
11 Mar 2010 21:59:42
Good post, SOS. I tried to explain that a month or so ago and was accused of saying Rodwell is worth £30m. But I think a few of the less bright people on here, like Rainfish, think that they can snap their fingers, and Everton will give up the goodies. Actually, the Rainfish idiot said in the summer that United were going 'take' him. But this was before he became fixated with copying and pasting his anti–Glazier stuff. No doubt he's changed his mind on things.
COYB!!
11 Mar 2010 20:31:50
There are alot of rumours on here about rodwell leaving everton, everton don't need to sell him so its gonna take a offer of around 30m to get him, will teams pay 30m for him i don't think so hes looks a fantastic player for the future but surely not worth 30m at the mo so reckon he will be at everton for a few more years
school of science
11 Mar 2010 20:04:46
What a load of rubbish!! What a load of rubbish! But why am I surprised? Kuyt was absolutely shocking!! What was he doing until he got subbed! Gerrard is also obviously sulking & feeling sorry for himself!! He should be dropped as much for himself as well as the team!! He just doesn't look interested! On a positive note it's a few days closer to summer 2010 so this nighmare can end!
The Irish Rover ( looking for any signs of a silver lining)
11 Mar 2010 20:11:50
Prob best to go and put a bet on liverpool for the europa cup now, they have some great players and surely can't carry on the way they are at the mo, the only thing i wonder is has rafa lost the dressing room
school of science
11 Mar 2010 20:14:27
To soul man again
i take it ur happy with the game tonight, the players don't want to play 4 rafa, how does kuyt, lucas, insua get in to the sqaud every week, kuyt should have gone of at half time??we will finish in 9th or 10th spot,
so when you get time to take your brown tongue out of rafas arse ask your self are you a rafa fan or a liverpool fan.
in rafa you trust(you blind deluded fools)
11 Mar 2010 20:21:20
Long joke that's liverpool played sh*t again Rafa you are becoming a joke do the right thing and just leave !
11 Mar 2010 18:15:12
David beckham will never sign for man utd agen u idiot..asif!
11 Mar 2010 18:58:57
The Liverpool contingent need to put aside any thoughts of Jose Mourinho joining either this summer of for at least a couple of years thereafter – if at all. Regardless of the contractual matters, Mourinho does not enjoy a good relationship with the press in Italy, nor the hierarchy of the Italian game. Success is unlikely to improve the situation and it seems more and more likely that he will leave for Real Madrid during the summer.
No doubt there will be a dependency on Perez and the Madrid hierarchy agreeing to Mourinho having at least, reasonable control over the transfers. I would not anticipate any Real Madrid transfers in the short–term aside from possibly Benzema being made available. More intersting will be the transfer of Ribery – Real Madrid are long–term admirers and it was always expected that a move would be on this summer. Munich need to recoup funds as Ribery moves in to his last year and the price needs two or more parties to be interested. Madrid will have an upper limit in mind – and so will Chelsea. Manchester City would no doubt be willing to outbid the others – but I doubt Ribery would be interested. So Ribery will perhaps go to Madrid if Mourinho wants him, but in my view a more likely option is Manchester United.
So I have Pellegrini out of Madrid, Mourinho in for a couple of years and then I will take a flyer on Mourinho going back to Chelsea – regardless of what Bruce Buck has said in the past.
And as I have previously said – I still see Laurent Blanc as a shoe–in at Old Trafford once Sir Alex Ferguson retires.
Liverpool – it won't be Mourinho – and it won't be Hiddink who is already committed after the World Cup and is at an age where the stress of club football is probably not for him any longer. It certainly won't be Carragher, at least not for a few years.
Sharkey.
11 Mar 2010 19:03:30
Ronaldo – the buy out clause and a transfer back to Manchester.
Someone, I apologise for not noting who, mentioned a vast buy–out clause. If there is one it certainly will not be half a million euro or more – and in all honesty they are used primarily as a deterent against unwanted bids nowadays. There is certainly no "buy–back" clause as someone else suggested and the value of the player is certainly less than Real Madrid paid for him. Madrid inflated the return on investment for the player when they borrowed the moneyt to buy him last year. They have done a similar thing in the past using projected shirt sales in the Far East and advertising revenue as their justification.
Sharkey.
11 Mar 2010 16:59:58
Seriously GazMan are you winding me up? There has been no bigger Rafa supporter than I. Everyone will testify how i've used Rafa in the Fergie debates. I'm gutted its turned out like this. I have said he aint a bad manager, i think he's done a great job up until this season. But Rafa is judged on results and every season you have to produce, the old saying is "not interested what you did yesterday, i'm only interested in today" When the results don't come then we all look at the reasons why, we look at performances, injuries, owners, signings, sales etc.etc. Even I am finding it hard to keep showing support when examples like Portsmouth, Reading, Fiorentina, Wigan, Birmingham performances say things are going from bad to worse. Like i said where do you draw the line. I've kept the faith far longer than 90% of LFC fans, in fact i've been ridiculed every time i've said In Rafa we trust. At xmas i bowed down to the 'if we are in this position by xmas 2010' then a change should be made' position. But that was made with the positive intention it would get better in the new year. It isn't. In fact the improvement isn't there at all. The difficulty is where do you draw the line and say that's it? Bob the Red
I myself am still a believer in Rafa and i will state why:
I believe the players sum big names as well are not playing to the standard required i can name names but everyone knows who they are.It is not Rafa who goes out there and plays we could blame his tactics but as everyone knows players rarely listen to these and just play the game as it comes.I could just put who i thought was good tell them to do this and that and they might not even get a touch of the ball.
Rafa needs to take some big names off and show them that we don't need them we have a very in depth team with many quality replacements in most positions even Striker:
BABEL
KUYT
GERRARD
NGOG
BENAYOUN
TORRES
All of these are capable of playing up front and have done for previous teams so why not for us.
Rubbish buys this is just other fans laughing at something every manager has made im not even going to mention the buys Fergie has made (Owen one game hargreaves) okay just the one.
Limited funds have played a big part but still he has made quality buys Reina, Alonso, Agger, Skrtel, Mascherano, Torres, Riera, Rodriguez, Aquilani, Johnson, Crouch and many more
So don't blame the manager for the players just being a bunch of overpaid fairys
I trust in Rafa
The only way is up Lfc
Will by the way
11 Mar 2010 17:39:52
This is a thought not a rumour
Liverpool have a bad, bad season. Without Alonso.
He moves to Real Madrid with the 'superstars' of world football (Ronaldo Kaka, Arbeloa lol)
Real Madrid play very well. When Alonso gets suspended, Real LOSE.
There is only 1 explanation
XABI ALONSO IS THE BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD!!
Nice one on selling him Rafa!
LFCRED
11 Mar 2010 16:36:18
JOHNNYBOY your opening line makes you sound like the pratt that you prob are!! bale and lennon average players?? they would get in all prem league teams bar prob manure's team?? and also most teams in europe? its most of your stupid moronic lot that post that they want them? lmfao, whats the matter little child you upset cause they hate you ahhhhh AND as for best fans in the world inpmsl you havent even got the best fans on merseyside now gt back to your hub caps little child
11 Mar 2010 16:13:36
'monkey chanting club'?
I'm surprised that made it past Ed.
Why do you say such stupid stuff, The Pube? What exactly is it you want to prove beyond that which everyone already knows? Why labour the point, and try to turn this into another slanging match? I'm not gonna be forced into saying anything negative about Rangers (which is what you want), so all you achieve is to make yourself look mentally unstable.
COYB!!
11 Mar 2010 15:03:28
For a rangers fan to say everton are a racist club is shocking like ive said with your history in the past , your club were the most bigoted ever
school of science
11 Mar 2010 15:18:04
COYBigot I don't care what he says about what Rangers fans did to Manchester. I was at the game then in the city centre afterwards to go back to my hotel. I didn't participate in any violence whatsoever nor did I see any violence by the time we walked from eastlands back to the centre.
All I am doing is aggreeing with him so stop your crying Sally. Oh yeah could you give me an example of my "ridiculous little thoughts" Are the things I have sid about your monkey chanting club fase?? Same old COYBigot, always acting like a ponsy git. Your better of in Denmark.
11 Mar 2010 15:23:04
From a lcpl serving in afghanistan
i love this site, it keeps the morale up and the lads and myself argue about this while out on the ground. gobby f***ing scousers, sweaty jocks, s****y mancs and dirty southern fairys having a go about the greatest league with the greatest teams keeps us going
keep the banter going lads
thanx
berbatov to anywhere but the united changing room
11 Mar 2010 15:08:27
The Pube: I'd be careful about backing Rainfish, he's already blamed Rangers fans on this board for wrecking 'his' city. But that wouldn't matter to you, seeing as all you want to do is find any type of support so you can peddle your ridiculous little thoughts. In fact, I take back what I say about being careful about backing Rainfish. You two suit each other. It would be a case of Dumb and Dumber. They could make a film about you.
Now go away and return when you can say something clever or at least funny.
COYB!!
11 Mar 2010 13:50:11
To the complete and utter T*T who wrote this
Q, why do liverpool fans keep posting that players such as milner, lennon or bale will be joining in the summer?? Q, why do liverpool fans keep posting they will be getting mourinho? Q, why do liverpool fans think that every billionaire will be buying them out?
A, cause they have nothing more to occupy their dense brain cell! can't see villa selling to the pool? as for lennon and bale both spurs players have slagged of the liverpool team, the city and its fans! yet the pool still post crap about them joining? lmfao, mourinho has stated the only team he would manage out side london would be man utd fact!! and the reason no one wants to buy your pathetic club is because you are to football what brookside is to soaps? dead buried and gone! and who cares? no one!! ha ha ha
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who cares about Lennon and bale we want some quality players not avrage ones, if Rafa does go in the summer you can be sure there will be a long list of top managers wanting the liverpool job. 1 We are a club respected the world over .2 we have history and tradition. 3. we have the best supporters in the world. People like you just get on my T*TS GO DRIVEL YOUR CRAP ELSEWHERE
JOHNNYBOY
11 Mar 2010 14:30:29
The first ever black player to play in Britain was Andrew Watson who played as right back fr both Queens Park & scotland.
Glasgow Rangers then signed their first black player in 1914, his name was Walter Tull. Unfortunately shortly after signing hs contract he went to war and was shot by a German bullet in France, his body was never found.
Rangers signed a black player named Salim Bachi Khan in 1936, he spent 18 months at the club.
COYBigot, I completely agree with RAINFISHTROMBONE. You are one to lecture people on racism lol. You are a complete small minde ponsy idiot and come accross as a complete boring thinks he know it all dip–stick on here.
Strange how these debates make you learn things sometimes aye. I never realised until looking in to it how racist a club Everton actually were. From what I have read on the net it seems there were considerably more than a "few" people who were against black people within the clubs support.
There are racistaccusations as recent as 2009 made towards Everton. I suppose, the clubs fans probably aren't as bad as these reports make them out to be. Jus like Rangers aren't as bad as a tv programme School of sh*t seen on SPN classics made out. lol.
11 Mar 2010 13:54:47
Okay, Rainfish, how about an explanation of why you feel it ironic that I lectured about racism? I've asked you this before but you never reply. You just come occasionally back with the COYBigot jibe, then scuttle away again.
I know that you're not clever, and have a propensity to become confused quite easily, which is why you seem to copy and paste your posts from other channels, rather than put them into your own words.
I won't expect a reply other than the usual jibe that is made without reference to why you use it.
You're a halfwit of The Pube proportions.
COYB!!
11 Mar 2010 13:32:37
To the depressive who wrote: in fact i've been ridiculed every time i've said In Rafa we trust. At xmas i bowed down to the 'if we are in this position by xmas 2010' then a change should be made' position. But that was made with the positive intention it would get better in the new year. It isn't. In fact the improvement isn't there at all. The difficulty is where do you draw the line and say that's it? Bob the Red..Of course you get ridiculed Bob, that is because most of the things you say are quite simply stupid or ridiculous and it gives us pleasure to mock you and hold you up for ridicule. But that doesn't stop you and you normally come back with some anti–United rubbish. Always remember, at least you are not COYBigot who is lecturing people about racism (Irony). Please please tell me you are not beaten Bob. Come on Rover and YNWA back him up. Yes I know you are a sh*t team managed by a waiter who hasn't won the league since the back pass was abolished. Some guy came on here and put Carra forward as your next manager. How brilliant is that? That thick scouse tool would do more damage than even souness did. I for one will be hoping it comes true.RAINFISHTROMBONE
11 Mar 2010 13:33:01
Never heard any rumours about Johnny Tuffney or Posebon coming Glasgow Rangers.News to me!
11 Mar 2010 13:37:49
I'm afraid Gazman you and many of so called Kopites are creating a huge rift within LFC fans, there is a growing Rafa's Reds and LFC Reds split! At what point will you lot wake up and see how we're playing these days, and what rot strolls around the pitch? I honestly can't remember the last time I enjoyed a game, even the ones we've won, were there any convincing wins this year? No not really, even the wins against Utd and Everton, the result was what mattered granted, but so much has been thrown at Stoke this year about the manner in which they approach games, but our negative approach is dull, boring and pathetic! And tell me this is there not a academy prospect or local player that couldn't do exactly the same thing a Lucas, Insua, Maxi or Aquamaria? for a quarter of the price, treble the heart and passion and all the better chance of being a prospect for the future than the next transfer flop we've seen too many off. Instead of spending time unrolling banners with objections to Hicks and Gillet, its time for Rafa to get one, as he's the root to our problems.
11 Mar 2010 13:21:41
LOL – I meant 'Bob' is right, not 'Bib'. :)
11 Mar 2010 13:20:54
Bib is right, I think. You have to wonder why the bad form has existed throughout the season, and in all competitions. Every manager and club can go through dips. But at some point, you expect a club to go on a good run (unless it's just out of its depth in all competitions it enters). What amazes me is that as it has become more urgent, Liverpool seem to continue to just plod along, as though they have all the time in the world to start grinding out a few results.
Then again, judging by the incredibly easy draws you have so far had in the Europa, you'll probably go on and win that, and Rafa will be hailed a hero again. I'm sure the winner qualifies for the CL qualifiers, doesn't it?
Typical lucky Liverpool
COYB!!
11 Mar 2010 12:36:24
Seriously GazMan are you winding me up? There has been no bigger Rafa supporter than I. Everyone will testify how i've used Rafa in the Fergie debates. I'm gutted its turned out like this. I have said he aint a bad manager, i think he's done a great job up until this season. But Rafa is judged on results and every season you have to produce, the old saying is "not interested what you did yesterday, i'm only interested in today" When the results don't come then we all look at the reasons why, we look at performances, injuries, owners, signings, sales etc.etc. Even I am finding it hard to keep showing support when examples like Portsmouth, Reading, Fiorentina, Wigan, Birmingham performances say things are going from bad to worse. Like i said where do you draw the line. I've kept the faith far longer than 90% of LFC fans, in fact i've been ridiculed every time i've said In Rafa we trust. At xmas i bowed down to the 'if we are in this position by xmas 2010' then a change should be made' position. But that was made with the positive intention it would get better in the new year. It isn't. In fact the improvement isn't there at all. The difficulty is where do you draw the line and say that's it? Bob the Red
11 Mar 2010 12:40:04
On the racism point there was a problem but the problem was not internal it was to do with a few fans . rangers problem was from the board downwards every1 knows this , everton dealt with the prblem and rangers have as well i presume but for fans to come on and deny what has happened in the past is pathetic.
school of science
11 Mar 2010 12:41:05
Ronaldo is the best player in the Real Madrid team by far, he was outstanding last night, if it wasnt for greedy Higuain, Real would have won comfortably, He will be at Madrid next year as they would be stupid to let him go.
Ronaldo has said on many occasions that he would never play for Man City for any amount of money, he only left United because he supported Real Madrid as a boy, Money was not an issue!
Now Real are not going to get into debt then sell their best player for 30m less than they paid for him a less than a year ago, No business would be that stupid especially Real Madrid.
People are going to hear stupid rumours like this til September now, but you would be a Moron to believe them, City will not sign any world known stars, they could not keep the only one they had (Robinho). Di Maria, Kaka & Ribery have all ruled out a possible move to City already, City will struggle to get stars even if they do make the fourth spot!
11 Mar 2010 12:41:48
Q, why do liverpool fans keep posting that players such as milner, lennon or bale will be joining in the summer?? Q, why do liverpool fans keep posting they will be getting mourinho? Q, why do liverpool fans think that every billionaire will be buying them out?
A, cause they have nothing more to occupy their dense brain cell! can't see villa selling to the pool? as for lennon and bale both spurs players have slagged of the liverpool team, the city and its fans! yet the pool still post crap about them joining? lmfao, mourinho has stated the only team he would manage out side london would be man utd fact!! and the reason no one wants to buy your pathetic club is because you are to football what brookside is to soaps? dead buried and gone! and who cares? no one!! ha ha ha
11 Mar 2010 12:44:05
NCS don't know if BNP leaflet outside goodison but there was a disraceful incident with leaflets being released a few years ago which everton came straight out and said the people involved will be banned from the ground
school of science
11 Mar 2010 12:06:02
NCS: I've never seen the BNP at Goodison Park. I'm not saying they haven't ever been there with their incomprehensible little leaflets. Like you know, I don't get to that many games nowadays. But I would say that in my experience, Everton has never been a club that could be associated with the BNP. Fascism doesn't do that well in Merseyside anyway, since it tends to be a socialist area.
But The Pube isn't wrong about Everton sometimes having a problem with racism (which doesn't necessarily equate to fascism). In my day it was rampant, but it was to with language and singling out black players (famously John Barnes). But when you go to Goodison these days, you don't really hear that kind of stuff. I'm not saying it doesn't occur (especially in Gwladys end) but it's not normal or welcomed.
The problems with a minority of hardcore away fans, existed up until recently. Even then, it was not sinister in the sense of being a concerted political campaign (in the BNP sense). But there have been problems with singing and chanting when visiting towns with a large black or Asian population (I'll leave it to your imagination regarding what is chanted or sung).
But if it is still happening, the club needs to get onto the coaches these people use (anyone can tell them which company many use to travel with) and start banning them from Everton.
But like I said, it's a small problem, and certainly not something that is as urgent as the Old Firm are battling to deal with. It's not ingrained in Everton culture. It is about the existence of a sub–culture, which can be stamped on and dealt with without a huge amount of effort or upset to the wider Everton support (in my opinion).
COYB!!
11 Mar 2010 11:55:06
To the guy with no name who said Gus McPherson played for the mhanky mob, he never played for Celtic so I don't know where you got that from
Murray Park
11 Mar 2010 10:54:43
Yawn Yawn, when will these idiotic Celtic fans ever stop, they know their club/management/players are rotten but just won't accept it, so what do they doDEFLECT, as usual, dodgy new prospective owner of Rangers, 25% of SPL managers are now saying Rangers get the benefit of dodgy decisions from refs, BLAH BLAH BLAH, give it a rest your embarrassing everybody on here, especially the sane and decent Celtic fans with your tedious and infantile rants, Rankers, mhankies, knuckledraggers ect, Mr Ed, this is a footy banter site, so why print about a young Celtic fan who was murdered a Rangers fan in 1996, when all this will do bring the level of this site down with tit for tat rubbish, tbh we don't need this sort, rant over. ELC 1912
11 Mar 2010 11:16:45
Here we go again, were the hell do you get your fantasy figures from, £24?million for McGeady, Brown, Boruc and Hinkel, your in need of serious psychiatric help, at most £14 million..£5m, £4m, £3.5m, £1.5m, respectively, as who you pull in, that depends IF you can sell any of the overated dross above, because like it or not your debt's rising, so I think all you'll be getting will be Bosmans and loans, Liewell and Reidso don't trust Mowbray after his laughable waste of money signings this season, so the future looks grim for being a Tim, while the Champions Rangers bring in £10–15 million in Champions League money, good innit, WAIL WAIL
11 Mar 2010 11:18:07
All you Celtic fans that come on here and blame everyone else for your failings but your OWN team. you can now air your views at dryyoureyesmate.com or yourteamaregash.com. Celtic FC = club in crisis!! YYAASS. G
11 Mar 2010 11:37:00
Good win for the manure. all there fans are banging on about 7–2 on agg, fair play u smashed them but not the ac milan squad we all used to know.they need a big over haul wit there squad.got no fight for the team.
11 Mar 2010 11:30:45
COYB or School of Science, does the BNP leaflet outside Goodison? I'd heard of them doing it ouside Ibrox so could any Rangers fan clarify this? In fact, does the BNP leaflet outside any ground? If so, surely the football clubs can and should do something about it? Or would this be against some freedom to hand out leaflets nonsense (even if they are full of thinly veiled racism)?
I'm not having a go at any club here, just trying to make the point that if we are going to rid football of the racists, then not allowing racists to hand out leaflets at the grounds (if they do) would be a start.
NCS
11 Mar 2010 11:02:40
"You do the above then when someone hits you with an almost identical example of racism from Everton, you come on with some player who played for you in 1966. Well guess what Sherlock, maybe a few slipped through the net. There were probable more catholics played for Rangers between 1900 and 1980 than there was black players played for Everton in the same period."
What a stupid argument the above is. What does that prove? Before the '50s there were hardly black people in Britain. And how many black players did Rangers have during this period? In fact, how many black players were there between 1900 and 1980? It was only in the '70s when they began to appear.
The fact is, the poster (is it The Pube again?) is using racism as a stick to beat people with simply because he thinks it gains him points. He doesn't care about race relations or the unique problems that the black community has faced. That actually makes him a racist. Moreover, the same problems regarding racism exist at Rangers football club. Both Everton and Rangers have had fans in the past that have used racist language and taunted black players. I don't think there is evidence to even suggest that Everton fans are more racist than Rangers.
What an odious little creep to bring all this up as if it were a moral point he was making.
COYB!!
11 Mar 2010 10:35:15
QUOTE: Massive rumors on Merseyside is that Rafa is going in the summer and his replacement is none other than.Carra (with Kenny guiding him through)! Remember Paisley & The King? This will happen.
Really?? A 32–year–old with no management experience? Helped by a man who has been out of the management game for a decade? This takes Liverpool nostalgic wallowing to unprecedented new levels. Get Mourinho or Hiddink in. Carragher might be a good manager one day but is he really the man to revitalise a ship that is rather less sinking and rather more becoming consumed by the sea bed?
11 Mar 2010 09:44:31
Message to Bob the Red. Don't be down Bob the Red, Rafa is a good man and a good manager. Yes, he has made some strange signings but we were very close last season, very close. If we had turned a couple of those home draws into wins then we would be champions having beaten the mancs and chelsea home and away in the same season.
I know its all ifs. but just think how different things couldve been now. Its been a bad season but the team that humped madrid 4–0 isn't too different to the one we have now. Fans are very fickle but you have to remember things.
We scored the most goals last season and should have won the league. The team now is the best since the late 80's my friend. Look at Reina, Mash, Torres, Benayoun, Johnson – all amazing signings. Torres for 20 mill! what a signing! take a look at the team's previous to Rafa – god awful– right back to souness. I think we live in a gossipy fast pace fickle society mate where people want instant results. Remember some of the football we played last season! 4–1 at old trafford for f**ks sake! get a grip liverpool fans and get behind Rafa – he made one mistake in letting Xabi alonso go in my opinion but he is only one player (who rafa had the vision to sign in the first place) How dare people question him? He doesn't sit down and think – right then, who can I sign that's really bad? – maybe some people think that, they read the press and say silly things without thinking. I am a true Liverpool fan and I'm proud of the way Liverpool fans get behind the team. So even if its horrible now, things can change and I think they will. We will see the true Liverpool in the coming weeks, a win at old trafford really wouldn't surprise me. Be positive and get behind your team.
"When I've got nothing better to do, I look down the league table to see how Everton are getting along." shankly
Gazman
11 Mar 2010 09:46:53
When one of your opponents, your fiercest rival speaks out about refereeing favouritism then it can quite easily be dismissed as sour grapes.
Two? Well just another manager unhappy about a defeat.
But three. Well that's a different story.
Tony Mowbray, Craig Brown and now Gus McPherson* have all accused Scottish referees of bias towards Rankers this season. Whether it be penalty kicks denied, perfectly good goals disallowed or inconsistency in cautions there can be no denying….the officials have collaborated in making the title run–in as easy as possible for the Establishment team.
25% of SPL managers have now spoken out about this blatant cheating, yet the SPL themselves do nothing about it.
They are just as guilty of making this seasons title one of NO CREDIBILITY.
*McPherson was once on the Mhanky Mob's books, unusual for ex–players to break rank and criticise their former paymasters.
11 Mar 2010 09:48:39
To soul man
you should take your toungue out of Rafas arse and look at whats happening at liverpool, WE ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH, YOU SAY YOU ARE A TRUE FAN THEN YOU MUST BE HAPPY WITH BEING IN SIXTH POSITION IN THE PREM, KNOCKED OUT THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE?KNOCKED OUT THE FA CUP, KNOCKED OUT THE CARLING CUP.PLAYING IN EUROPA LEAGUE.TO MANY BAD BUYS.
11 Mar 2010 05:19:32
Two things to get of my chest;
1) Liverpool fans. If you don't qualify for the Champs Lge there is no chance you will sign anyone for over 10m so forget signing Mata or Milner or anyone like that, unless you sell Torres or Gerrard. Thats a fact. It will be a huge financial blow to a already debt ridden club, the same would be the case for Man Utd also.
2) "Simon Grayson will be sacked on Wednesday" yeah ok mate, they won 4–1 last night and are 5pts clear of 3rd and 4pts off 1st. What a mug. Nice try (guessing your a huddersfield fan).
3) Chelesea fans don't expect any major signings over the age of 26/27 as per your new transfer policy. That rules out Villa etc, I fully expect Aguero to sign in the summer and I have heard talk of Gago and Mata which seem realistic, especially if Cole and Ballack leave as expected.
11 Mar 2010 06:44:31
RE: The following post:
10 Mar 2010 22:39:46
Liverpool. What's ur source? Lfc. are willing to sell Gerrard but not Torres. Rafa wants Balotelli from Inter as part of the deal which will see Gerrard move to the Milan side. I mentioned a while back about Pepe Reina being made Liverpool captain next season and Gerrard knows this will happen regardless. Carragher will not step up but will still be vice captain as Rafa wants an Agger/Kjaer partnership as his first choice. Rafa will try to replace Gerrard with one of Milner or Javi Martinez. Liverpool are also tracking Tom Cairney of Hull, Otimendi of Velez and as eveybody knows Mata of Valencia. Also a left back is needed but I have no names, just a rumour that first choice is a British player.
So you reckon, after another season without silverware and added to that no more champions league, the much hated owners and a manager who has completely lost the faith of the fans & players (not to mention lost any sense of tactical thinking) are gonna go and sell the heart and soul of LFC and then overlook the only other genuine scouser not just for captaincy but for a starting position as well?? They may as well issue us a f*cking dark blue kit next season then!! That will be suicide, and I honestly could never see it happening. I'm actually sick of people trashing Gerrard because he hasn't been in good form lately; are we really gonna forget that quickly what he's meant to our club? How many times he rescued matches? How he completed turned around both Champions League and FA Cup final's? The entire team has been poor this season! But save the exit door for those who have given us absolutely nothing the entire time they've been here (and there sadly are too many to mention..)!He is way too good a player to suddenly be written off, and we'll see the best of him again and it will be in a LFC shirt!
11 Mar 2010 07:39:11
Dear mr bob the red,
hey, man, cheer up. ngiak understands exactly how you feel. ngiak went through all this in the 80s and it was horrible to go out and face all your friends when the present is bleak and the future looks, er. nothing to look forward to. but things do have a way of changing. pool are a huge club with a huge fan base. things will surely change. ngiak had a holiday in chilly hong kong over the weekend. it was not a surprise to see that there were many locals wearing EPL jerseys. and MOST were liverpool and man united ones. chin up. its one of those perfect weeks for ngiak, but life always has a way of surprising everyone, does it not? enjoy the highs and endure the lows. that's how to survive. come on, mr bob cheer up and throw one of your absolutely ridiculous anti man united drivel and wait for us to respond.
gan
11 Mar 2010 08:14:41
10 Mar 2010 23:35:07
PL Transfer Targets Summer 2010 Chelsea
Deco, Belletti, Ferreira and Malouda OUT Definitely
Joe Cole, Ashley Cole, Kalou, Anelka OUT Possibly
DECO: The options; RVDV, Mata, Silva, Hamsik, Dzagoev, Pjanic, Teixeira, Kaka, Alcantara, Canales
Its no secret that Chelsea are chasing Hamsik and that RVDV has been mentioned is the Chelsea/RM jostling of recent times.Question is will Hamsik leave Italy (Inter Offer) and will RVDV give a poor showing here too. Teixeira, Dzagoev and Pjanic are young, but we could certainly use their youth, and with Lampard ageing signing two of them, but only bringing one to the Bridge for now is certainly not out of the question. Mata and Silva are certainly in the mix but there will be a lot of competition for their signatures. Kaka is th dark horse, he almost joined Chelsea in 2005, is a good mate of Carlo and is unhappy and unproductive at RM. Thiago Alcantara would be good, but I'd rather him to come in a few years, maybe a loan to Twente ? depending upon whether or not Sergio Canales is signed up with RM is the basis upon which we should go chasing.
MALOUDA: options; di Maria, Ribery, Krasic, Silva, Mata, Kaka, Urreta, Dzagoev, Pjanic, Teixeira, Alcantara, Ki
di Maria and Ribery are the obvious choices, but again there will be war for their signatures. Krasic would be great, but at the moment he seems destined to go elsewhere. Again Silva and Mata are propositions, as is Kaka but Mata emerges as the favourite with his left wing experience. I like Urreta and he would be great alongside Kakuta, di Maria or Ribery, but he's probably a 2012 signing. Dzagoev, Teixeira and Pjanic are all young, they could spend some time on the left before moving to the centre of midfield. Thiago Alcantara would be good, but I'd rather him to come in a few years, maybe a loan to Twente ? Ki Sung–Yueng is talented and would be a boon for Chelsea merch sales in Korea.
BELLETTI and FERREIRA: the options; S Taylor, M Mancienne, N Subotic, D Luiz
Mancienne is the cheapest option, with Taylor estimated at about 9 million and considerably more for Subotic, this may come down to price. D Luiz however is probably the best option.
JOE COLE; Options; Schwiensteiger, Stoch, Silva, Kaka, Dzagoev, Pjanic, Teixeira, Assulin
Schweinsteiger is the ideal replacement for Ballack but he could also replace Joe Cole, making Stoch the probable pick, its a shame Maxi went to Liverpool then he would have been ideal. Again Silva and Dzagoev, Pjanic , Teixeira are propositions, as is Kaka who emerges as the group favourite. Gai Assulin would be a great get but we are competing with AFC for him.
ASHLEY COLE: Options: Vargas, Dani Alves
Vargas is the only real option I see, i hope we don't loose Ashley, though Vargas is good. Alves obvioulsy plays on the right and is not a real option to replace Ashley, but could be part of swap deal with Barca for Ashley
ANELKA: Options: Villa, Pato, Aguero, Gomis, Balotelli
Villa is expensive and ageing but good, Pato seems destined to one day join Chelsea, Aguero should if he stops mucking us about, Gomis is strong talented and young, as is Balotelli.
KALOU: Options: Nilmar, Morimoto
Morimoto is a bright young star in Serie A, and would blast our Japanese Merch slaes into the stratosphere. Villreal's cash crisis may see Nilmar move to the Bridge, which would be a good move.
Youth Striker: Lukaku, and potentially Christian Eriksen as well.
FOR CHRIST SAKE MAN, HOW ARE THEY ALL OPTIONS?.IF YOU LIST ALL THE TOP PLAYERS IN THE WORLD, THEY ARE OPTIONS FOR ANY TEAM, LONG TIME SINCE I PLAYED CHAMPIONSHIP MANAGER.
HAHAHAHAHAHA THANKS FOR MAKING ME LAUGH THIS MORNING
11 Mar 2010 09:43:34
While Celtic's current position causes concern on a number of fronts I'm glad that we are spared the spin of the latest Rangers 'takeover'.
Today's deflection story claims that giving Walter Smith a new contract is a priority for Andrew Ellis and even goes on to claim that the secret Rangers fan is planning new contracts for fringe players Nacho Novo and Kirk Broadfoot before coming to the punchline.
Due diligence on the bid will begin next week!
That nugget of information puts everything else into context.
Basically a property developer that has attempted to get into football at QPR and lasted a couple of months at Northampton Town has indicated an interest in Rangers.
Who wouldn't?
The prospect of owning a club with a 50% chance of success domestically and annual access to European football would appeal to most shrewd individuals.
Before any contracts are put on the table, remember Kris Boyd, Novo and Broadfoot have so far resisted the contracts publically offered to them in January, the Ellis consortium require to complete the complex issue of due diligence.
What that will uncover is anyone's guess. Will the Rangers accounts uncover a £50m IOU from the 2002 share issue to Murray Sports?
Rangers recently revealed that £9m of debt owed to football clubs had been repaid in the first half of the 2009/2010 financial year, debt which may or may not have been included in the headline debt figure of £31m.
Discovering the fact that retail and catering have both been out–sourced on long term contracts denies any new business plan some obvious revenue streams.
Remembering the long debate and battle to takeover Celtic in the early nineties there wasn't much discussions about player contracts or the management of the club.
Uncovering the level of debt, stabilising the club and putting in place a business plan of investment to take the club forward were the main issues, issues that the then directors had failed miserably on.
Finding out the identity of those behind the Ellis consortium and the level of Ellis's own investment is probably of much greater meaning than the eye catching 'New deal for Walter' headline.
Trailing by 13 points in a two horse race is very concerning but can largely be addressed on the football pitch and dressing room.
No prizes are handed out for balance sheets.
11 Mar 2010 01:43:03
In 1996, Jason Campbell, a 23–year–old Protestant, was convicted of the unprovoked murder of 16–year–old Mark Scott, who was wearing a Celtic F.C. jersey, although covered by a jacket at the time. Campbell waited until Scott had walked past the bar doorway in which he was standing, sneaked up behind Scott and cut his throat with a carpet fitter's knife. Scott died instantly. Subsequent floral tributes to the youth laid at the spot of his murder were defaced and destroyed by loyalists and Rangers fans.
They defaced the tributes.
Those are just a few examples of sectarian violence in Glasgow.[5] A 2006 article stated that sectarian incidents reported to police (largely verbal abuse) increased by 50% to 440 over an 18–month period. The article stated that 64% of the 726 cases between 1 January 2004 and 30 June 2005 were motivated by hatred against Catholics, and by hatred against Protestants in most of the remaining cases (i.e. 31%).[
What about chanting during a moments silence for people that fought our nation?
Don't you dare try and take the moral high ground rangers and celtic fans. All football teams have a small minority of scum unfortunatley affilated with them. Of course Everton had and has a trace of disgusting racism but the club have done everything in its power to stop it. Sectarianism, based in racism and one of the more moronic attitudes of the time, is something neither club, in my opinion, come anywhere near to stamping out in comparison to other clubs dealing with racism.
Alex
11 Mar 2010 00:26:43
## To who ever posted this would you cop ur self on..y would u start beckford ahead of yakubu r doyle..dont b such a tool###
EVERTON DEC 2010 TEAM
HOWARD
P.NEVILLE JAGIELKA HEITINGA BAINES
PIENAAR FELLAINI CAHILL DORRANS
SAHA BECKFORD
SUBS: NASH, YOBO, ONUONA, COLEMAN, JENAS, DJAINO, OSMAN,
BILYALETDINOV, DOYLE, YAKUBU.
10 Mar 2010 23:16:52
Bookies favourite to be liverpools next permanent manager is kenny dalglish at 11/4 followed by mourinho at 7/2. i have been one of the many liverpool fans who have fully trusted rafa, however it is clear for all to see that the players lack confidence and clear arent happy with life at anfield. now a few new signings in the summer could change this. for me though, i think its time rafa benitez leaves. he's took us as far as he can. unfortunately he has completely re–staffed and restructered the whole of the training staff from the first team right down to the academy with the only english coaches having to learn spanish so as to comunicate with the spanish staff. unbelievable isn't it!
10 Mar 2010 22:35:46
School of sh*t nobody has ever said Rangers or Celtic haven't had their problems in the past. It was you that started all this with your out of the blue comments earlier.
Now your saying that you brought all this vile filth up again because of a nickname that a couple of people refer to COYBigot as on here. What does me calling him COYBigot got to do with a football team. What if I didn't support Rangers and say for example supported Falkirk. Would you not be on here crying then? Idiot.
Being a Rangers or Celtic supporter doesn't mean that person is a bigot. Just like i'm sure all Everton supporters aren't monkey chanting racists. I just find it hilarious that you come on here claiming Rangers never signed a catholic until the 90's, then when you get proved wrong and have a list of players thrown in your face dating back to 1907 you come out with "oh yeah a fet got through the net"
You do the above then when someone hits you with an almost identical example of racism from Everton, you come on with some player who played for you in 1966. Well guess what Sherlock, maybe a few slipped through the net. There were probable more catholics played for Rangers between 1900 and 1980 than there was black players played for Everton in the same period.
Don't come on here and bring up problems that other teams had 3 years ago when your own club had there own disgraceful problems. You said it was a disgrace that Rangers hardly signed any catholic players. Well I think going to a fruit shop and buying bananas to take to a football stadium especially to thro at a football player is pretty disgraceful too.
Did you actually think you were going to be able to post that crap you posted earlier without taking any stick about your own club?? Everton have one of the worst if not THE worst reputation in English football for the racism shown to black players, and after some of the stuff I read today on google it still has a small part in the clubs support.
Glass houses you fool.
10 Mar 2010 22:45:59
Ronaldo won't be going anywear.real been after him many years\ and av only jus gt there man, thyd never sell.every1 already knew ronaldos attitude wasnt great but his sheer talent clearly over shadows this.theres only city if thy did sell tht cud afford him if he did leave and tht not gunna appen now isit..people am dreaming
10 Mar 2010 22:46:23
School of science, that's one fan, and maybe a few others on here don't tar us all with the same brush.
Murray Park
10 Mar 2010 22:47:38
Theres any 1 way u dislusiond people am gunna be seein ronaldo playin 4 utd agen nxt season and that's in ur dreams..
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